>> paul ryan. you know, obviously, as a democrat, it's somebody i have been watching for a long time. mitt romney's running mate. i think he came out of this race with a good reputation. and i think that, you know, he has a lot of opportunities this year. he's known as a reformer in the party. the republican party is doing a lot of introspection of what they need to do to address the changing demographics in this country and he has an opportunity to really step up. >> how does he do it in the house, which is more difficult? >> he's a leader in the house and he's known as being idealogical. >> kevin, you picked -- you got the big two. >> marco rubio is one of the people i picked because i think, to perry's point, people are looking for new diverse voices inside the republican party. i think whether he likes it or not, marco rubio is going to become a national figure in that regard and he's going to sort of be emblematic of the republicans' abilities and their effort to reach out to newer audiences.